But here's a better view >>>

by Jon on 09 May 2025 01:18PM

Conte (the squad he took over, can't be bothered to go through his entire tenure to check when people came in) - Ange today

GK1 : Lloris - Vicario : Maybe edges Conte at peak, but similar at best
GK2 : Gollini - Kinsky : Definitely Ange here
LB : Reguilon - Udogie/Spence : Definitely Ange and with backup of better quality than the Conte starter too
RB : Royal - Porro : Definitely Ange
CB1 : Romero - Romero : Yr1 Ange Romero was the best variant, but same player
CB2 : Sanchez - Micky vdV : Absolute wash for Ange
CB3 : Rodon/Dier/Davies - Gray/Dragusin/Davies : I'd lean Ange, I don't care which way you want to go on this
CM1 : Hojbjerg - Bentancur : Ange
CM2 : Skipp - Bissouma : Ange
AM1 : Son - Son : Conte's version was definitely the more in form
AM2 : Moura - Johnson : Meh. I never rated Moura, Johnson is far exceeding his scoring rate, but I don't care which way you go on this
ST : Kane - Solanke : Conte by a long, long way

Additional subs:
Conte: Tanganga, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Bergwijn, Doherty, Winks, Sessegnon, Clarke, a dead Dele Alli
Ange: Bergvall, Sarr, Tel, Odobert, Richarlison, Moore

I'd argue Ange's subs bench is massively better quality and more reliable.

Tally, in Jon's head:
Conte: 2
Ange: 7 including subs
Don't care either way: 4

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Jon if you have the time can you compare and contrast Conte's squad to the current one - by Mohammed the Secret Shirtlifter knows you have the time - 09 May 2025 01:00PM

Ange has a better and deeper squad than the utter shit Conte had to work with - by Cassmere - 09 May 2025 02:15PM

I'm not sure, I know we are on a high and I don't want to spoil that but I think some of our players are much better than they are looking under Fat Ange - by Dafyd Ginola - 09 May 2025 02:16PM

This teams defenders (if fit and focused) with Conte's attack challenges at the top end. - by MarkP - 09 May 2025 01:20PM

But here's a better view >>> - by Jon - 09 May 2025 01:18PM

Ha ha, well that’s fairly decisive - by Skipper - 09 May 2025 02:56PM

Hahah superbly done that - by crowny - 09 May 2025 01:51PM

And, given everyone seems to think I'm ChatGPT despite me thinking it's mostly a load of shit, I asked it for your benefit. It's summary was "Conte had the better squad in terms of individual talent, especially with Harry Kane at the club. Postecoglou has a more balanced, modern and high-ceiling squad. If you prioritise stars Conte's squad was better, if you value tactical potential and squad building Ange's squad wins" - by Jon - 09 May 2025 01:37PM

Kane counts for about 5 though - by gdp - 09 May 2025 01:35PM

Not under Ange who can't get a squad to consistently actually create chances for the striker, though, which would be kinda key. Kane is a big, big miss, but at the same time simply having Kane back in this squad really wouldn't address any of the problems we're seeing on the pitch - by Jon - 09 May 2025 01:38PM

He was creating half the chances we scored - by gdp - 09 May 2025 02:14PM

I think you'd have to include Kulusevski and Bentancur in Conte as he had them to pick from from not long after he joined? - by MarkP - 09 May 2025 01:34PM

They joined in the January window. I actually left Kulu out of the Ange listing altogether though, so he wouldn't affect numbers either way. If you added them it would change it from Conte/Ange/Whatever 2/7/4 to 2/6/5 which isn't a big shift really - by Jon - 09 May 2025 01:40PM

Conte only came in the November didnt he? Conte's peak team towards the end of that season featured both heavily. Fair point that you didnt include Kulusevski in the Ange team either though. - by MarkP - 09 May 2025 02:00PM

Yep, but his next season started with "You told me I could leave" Kane, so it was a bit swings and roundabouts. I don't think there's much discussion over the strength of the squad as a whole though, current is far better but misses a World Class striker - by Jon - 09 May 2025 02:54PM

There is plenty of discussion, you fucking crashing bore - by Mohammed the Secret Shirtlifter - 09 May 2025 04:02PM

Bravo! - by JR - 09 May 2025 01:30PM

haha fuck - by Rumbles - 09 May 2025 01:26PM

HAHAHA , i like that - by TC - 09 May 2025 01:24PM

Literally just done that below - by Jon - 09 May 2025 01:06PM